Why not adding church presets to the B4 II? The original idea before the Hammond B3 was creating a cheap church organ. What I still miss is the functionality of drawbar attack/release/envelope like in a keyboard. Thanks to these functionality you can create a slower motion into your drawbar attack and create new sounds. Like church and gospel sound! You have already the B3 sound. The Hammond company uses the technique also to create typical european church sounds and gospel sounds. NI, if you read this, take in into your schedule for the next version! Thanks a lot. RH12LM Why not adding church presets to the B4 II? The original idea before the Hammond B3 was creating a cheap church organ. What I still miss is the functionality of drawbar attack/release/envelope like in a keyboard. And many at the time thought Hammond missed the mark. When Hammonds came on the market, organs were either pipe organs or pump organs. The Hammond organ didn't sound anything like a pipe or pump organ and was shunned by many organists. The Hammond with all its shortcomings and idiosyncrasies, was embraced by Jazz players and eventually many non-church uses because of one of its greatest shortcomings, its attack! The fast attack is what makes the Hammond work so well in a group setting. The information in this document is subject to change without notice and does not represent a commitment on the part of Native Instruments Software Synthesis. The software described by this document is subject to a License Agreement and may not be copied to other media. No part of this publication may be. The aggressive attack is what also demands a fast computer with minimum latency. After the original B-3, Hammond offered up several models that used digital keying, lacking that aggressive attack and making many players say they don't feel right when they play them. Most recently, Hammond introduced a new B-3, with the old style audio keying so that it now has the fast aggressive attack of its predecessor, the original B-3 because that's what Hammond players wanted N.I. Got it right by staying with the traditional Hammond sound. They have a nice set of additional features like reverb, tone controls etc. But kept the focus on what matters. (I know I know, overdrive.:-( ) Seems like if you want something other than the original Hammond sound, then maybe you are looking for a completely different software or keyboard. Why does the hammond company use attack/envelope? Why does the hammond company use attack/envelope in their drawbar settings? In their new XM2 I have, they do so to have drawbar church presets, church voices, gospel voices etc. So I don't know what the problem can be to replicate these voices by B4 II. The module is not that bad, the hammond voice is good, the leslie effect is terribly bad to my ears. The B4 is more valuable to me because of its flexibility to program all the settings, its superior tone voices. Thanks anyway. Click to expand.I still don't get your question exactly. Many companies have offered alternatives to the standard drawbar system over the years. Including Hammond. Still, the 'Gold Standard' of the classic Hammond sound is the B-3 series which had no envelope control, key click noise, generator hum and cross modulation.perfectly captured with the N.I B-4 (II) I'm not sure what envelope controls would do in making a 'Church preset' or 'Gospel sound.' Adjusting the envelopes of the drawbars won't make it any more of a Church sound than it already is. Just a different sound that could be used in any kind of music including church. I appreciate wanting more adjustments giving new and interesting sound generation. But, I'm surprised that anyone would buy the B-4 software and then complain that there aren't any slow attack envelopes. Seems to me those who buy B-4 are looking for an exact replica of the original B-3 sound and operation, which has been the goal of many companies for years leaving many failed attempts along the way. BTW.I have been servicing Hammond Organs along with most other brands for over thirty years. My experience is players that want the traditional pipe organ sound prefer models like the Rodgers or Allen or their many lookalikes. They have a slower attack but also, the tones are considerably different from drawbar. Those that want the Hammond sound, well, want the Hammond sound. With all its warts! George Korg Triton - B-4 II - Leslie 145 - Akoustik Piano - Electrik Piano - Pro-53 - Mforce MTron - Kore. AMD Dual-Core 2.6 - 2GB RAM - 250GB HD.
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